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09/15/2010 Poll

baire702's picture

I want to mention, the second question about what our favourite part of The Amish Cook. That was difficult for me to answer since I like both learning about receipts and Lovina and her family.

One suggestion I have is for cooking videos by Lovina or daughter Elizabeth. What I mean is showing cooking/baking like daughter Elizabeth is doing in The Amish Cook TV video on Breakfast at Lovina's when she is frying some eggs. The scene where we see daughter Elizabeth's coloured bracelet.

blessings,

CarylAnne

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Learning about our beautiful world that God has made requires more than an elementary school education.  It is complex, fascinating and a source of joy to all of us. 

My comments apparently elicted a misundersanding.  I, too, am a wife and mother.  I am happy.  Twenty years ago, I walked away from a wonderful career to take care of my children.  I felt then and I feel now that caring for them is the most important job in the world.  I do not work for pay today.  This is not a debate re: the merits of career v. staying at home.  I do feel that I have my "values straight."

My life and the lives of my husband and children are much richer due to the fact that I have had the benefit of an education.  I suggest that some very young children do not understand the worth of education, particularly in an environment that does not value it.  Actually, some young girls do want an education.  I know I did when I was young. It is a sad fact that the Amish girls do not even get a chance at enriching their lives through education. The choices that are made for them at a very young age prevent them from a lifetime of joy and wonder at  comprehending the God's beautiful creation around them. The reality is that they are trained to serve in the roles of cook, cleaner, gardener, livestock manager, and yes, mother who cannot share with her child what she does not know or understand.

 

paulaayn's picture

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So I guess the girls should be forced to go to school?  I would think Elizabeth being homeschooled for her last year would speak volumes of where she wants to be. 

Most Amish/Mennonites I know value REAL education over book learning and the nonsense (and lack of morals) found in higher schooling.  Most of what is taught at high school is preparation for life in a cubical!

Most of the useful/interesting things I know I learned AFTER going to school for far too many years.  When you learn on your own and stuff you actually want to learn it's worth much more than 'school learning'.

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I'm surprised and disappointed at how UNheathfully this family eats.  I think I could teach Lovina a thing or two about healthy cooking! 

muslim sister's picture

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I think Lovina can tech you a thing or two about manners

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If you expended calories at the rate of a hard-working Amish family,you wouldn't think twice about the way they eat! They do manual labor ALL day,and need the fuel for such work. The "english" ways of work and diet cannot be compared....we(although not Amish) are hard working farmers here,and our diets wouldn't suit most people. We burn it off...none of us are fat. We mostly eat what we raise,as do the Amish. We don't run to the fast food joint(UGHHHH!). How often do you cook from scratch and work sun-up til' sundown? On the farm,that's life!!!

paulaayn's picture

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Well said Barb!!!  My husband is also a farmer and would literally pass out if he did not get 'proper' meals, especially at lunch.  "Lite" food is for office workers who only break a sweat when the a/c goes off!

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Paula,If I offered a skimpy sandwich or salad....My husband would wonder "what the heck is goin' here?" I am sure you would hear likewise! Farmers and farmers' families WORK HARD!! I guess we need to stick together against those who,as you said so perfectly,break a sweat when the a/c goes down!!! Gotta love it...from one farmwife ,to another!! Bless you!Wink

paulaayn's picture

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Laughing   yep, lunch like that would get me asked where the 'rest of lunch' was.  I can't even make eggs (quiche with meat, fried with bacon, etc), they just don't have enough holding power.  Office people don't understand.

Paula

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Yea, I'm not in the mood to pick a fight with anyone and the problem with typed words is I don't know whether Pamela sort of meant that as a harmless light-hearted dig or a sharp-elbowed jab at Lovina's cooking, typed words lack inflection and context...I would just say that as a general rule the Amish NEED more calories than, say, a cubicle office worker in our society...I just don't think -as a general rule - you compare the average English person's diet with the Amish...I mean if I ate like Lovina I'd probably be obese but she works, physically, far harder than I so not only can she get away with more calories, she NEEDS more calories (as do most Amish)

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Awhile back I read about research done by some British scientists (if I remember correctly) who were trying to determine how much more active the average Amishman is as opposed to the average "Englishman" (non-Amish).  I don't recall all the details of how they measured each group's exertion other than they used pedometers for one thing, but what they discovered was that the average Amishman is SIX TIMES more active, on a daily basis, than a non-Amishman.  So, definitely, the Amish not only need, but can easily burn up, the extra calories and fat.  And while some media attention has been given to Amish medical conditions (Down's Syndrome, etc.), I don't ever remember reading that high cholesterol is a major problem among the Amish.  So their activity-intense lifestyle, as Farmhousebarb pointed out, must play a major role in this.  ~ Janice

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You are so right, Barb (even though I'm not a farmer! Wink)

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this is their way...i wish you peace

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I think for the most part if a hand, a foot, a snippet of a voice, appears on video, it's generally acceptable...I'm always extraordinarily careful to be respectful with videos...

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I have enjoyed The Amish Cook column, and marveled at the hardworking family as well as their resilience during the recent sorrows they have suffered.  The appeal of the Amish way of life and of retreating from much of modern culture is understandable, at least to some extent. 

However, each of the last two columns contained information that is troubling to me.  Susan has completed her formal education at the end of 7th grade  --  she just turned 14 years old.  Surely, with less than an elementary school education, there is so much of God's beautiful creation she does not have the education to even begin to comprehend. 

Elizabeth suffered a similar fate, unfortunately.  She is now 16, and her education ended two or three years ago -- she spends her days cleaning other people's houses and cooking, cleaning and gardening at home.  Now she has a special friend, Tim.  Does this mean that at age 16, her future has been determined for her -- she is already intended to marry into a life of never ending manual labor? 

Is it not possible that these girls deserve an education?  An insistence on old fashioned ways does not necessarily exclude an education.  Boys and yes, in some instances girls, too, have enjoyed the richness of education for hundreds of years. 

The abrupt and early end to education for girls is, in my opinion, a sad fact of the Amish way of life, at least as it's portrayed in this column.

 

muslim sister's picture

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PERSONALLY I FIND IT TROUBLING THAT YOU FIND THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT ELIZABETH CAN BE EDUCATED IS THROUGH GOING TO A SCHOOL.  DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN SCHOOL, HOW MUCH MUCH SCHOOLS HAVE CHANGED IN RECENT YEARS. I AM A MOTHER OF 4 AND I WILL NEVER SEND MY CHILDREN TO SCHOOL TO BE TAUGHT SOME HORRIBLE MANNERS AND DISRESPECT FOR THEIR PARENTS.  I BELIEVE A GIRLS PLACE IS TO SERVE HER FAMILY, COOK AND CLEAN, SEW AND WASH. AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS AN EDUCATION. A GIRL NEEDS TO BE TAUGHT HOW TO CARE FOR HER FAMILY.  IF YOU WERE TO DIE TOMORROW, IF THAT IS WHAT GOD WANTS, WOULD YOUR DAUGHTER BE ABLE TO FILL YOUR ROLL, IN TAKING CARE OF SIBLINS AND THE HOUSE , ETC... AND BY THE WAY HAVE YOU SEEN THE WAY ELIZABETH WRITES? DOES IT APPEAR THAT SHE NEEDS ANY MORE "FORMER" SCHOOLING. SHE WRITES BETTER THEN MOST COLLEGE GRADS.

paulaayn's picture

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Why do you assume the girls WANT more education??  It's a feminist assumption that women can't be happy being a wife and a mother.  A career is NOT the be all and end all.  If you don't have family, you have nothing.  I don't want to get into another discussion on women working or not.  I just don't like people pitying the girls for being 'forced' out of school.  If they followed the column, they would know that Elizabeth didn't really enjoy school and was in fact home schooled in the end. 

To be completely honest, I'm not sure I learned too much in high school that applies to my every day life.  By grade 8 I could read anything I wanted, could do math, knew about nature and could play the flute.  All high school did was cram in more knowledge (a lot of it useless) and prepare me for university.  All university did was cost me $40K.  If I could have met Colin in grade 9 and married him before I was 20, I would have had a much happier young adulthood than I did. 

Wife and mother may be a lot of work, but it's the most important work out there.  Lovina's girls are so lucky to be part of a culture that still has it's values straight.

 

muslim sister's picture

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I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!!! HIGHSCHOOL IS A WASTE OF TIME, IT IS USED TO TEACH BAD MANNERS AND DISRESPECT. A GIRL NEEDS TO KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF HER FAMILY IN ALL DIFFERENT WAYS. HOW MANY "MOTHERS" DO YOU KNOW THAT CAN NOT EVEN TOAST BREAD OR BOIL WATER, BUT THEY HAVE A COLLEGE EDUCATION. SOME GOOD THAT WILL DO THEIR CHILDREN MAYBE THEY CAN EAT HER DIPLOMA FOR LUNCH!Laughing

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I agree with you, Paula! I majored in journalism, home ec and language (Spanish) in high school -- none of which has helped over these last forty-some years. What I do recall from high school are the dances, football and basketball games and the senior play, of which I was a part of. I loved the social aspect of it! I didn't go to college, opting instead for beauty school -- what a waste! I hated it from day one! So I agree --what I learned in elementary school is all I needed to know in life. All I ever aspired to be was a wife and mother!